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meets with congressional leaders ability the fiscal cliff, house speaker john boehner says there's no progress to report. so what now? we'll have a fair and balanced debate just ahead. >> no substantive progress has been made in the talks between the white house and the house over the last two weeks. ♪ megyn: well, some good news for new yorkers, and this we're told may be a first. the new york daily news reports that no shootings, stabbings or even slashings were reported on monday. [laughter] congratulations! and while it's rare to go an entire day without such violent crimes near new york, some say it's not a total surprise. you see, the current stats show the nypd is on track to finish 2012 with just over 400 murders reported. that's a far cry from 1990 when more than 2,000 murders were recorded, so, you see, everything is relative here in new york city. just like in your town, right? ♪ megyn: that is the kind of report that makes nana pick up the phone and call me and say why do you live in that city? okay. there is a new government watchdog report just released to congr
street. the market interpreted positive statements on a potential deal on the fiscal cliff by house speaker and rebounded from what had been a 112-point slide after the morning's opening bell. the dow jones industrials reversed, as i said, on the speaker's positive remarks and finished the session up 107 points. s&p up 11, nasdaq gained 24. all ten s&p 500 sectors moved higher on the day. that is the first time it has happened since october 4th. retailers drove the consumer discretionary sector energy industrials lead in the wake, and the rally started just minutes before house speaker made it clear that republicans are willing to deal on revenue and ready to find a resolution now. >> we all know that we have had this spending crisis coming at us like a freight train. it must be dealt with. and in order to try to come to an agreement, republicans are willing to put revenue on the table, but it is time for the president and democrats to get serious about the spending problem that our country has. i am optimistic that we can continue to work together to avert this crisis sooner rather
as democrats and republicans dig in and ramp up the rhetoric on the fiscal cliff. house speaker john boehner and senate majority leader harry reid trading jabs before the cameras on capitol hill. >> going over the fiscal cliff is serious business. and i'm here seriously trying to resolve it. and i would hope the white house would get serious as well. >> speaker boehner made very clear at his press conference that he thinks the ball is in your court and the president's court. he says democrats have got to get series about spending cuts. where is the disconnect? >> i don't understand his brain so you should ask him. okay? >> reid making those comments to our own kate bolduan. i'm joined by dan lothian. dan, we're learning more about the white house plan to deal with the fiscal cliff. break it down for us. >> reporter: right. this is the plan that secretary -- treasury secretary timothy geithner took up to capitol hill yesterday. it calls for $1.6 trillion in tax increases over a ten-year period more than republicans had anticipated. in addition to that, $400 billion in spending cuts that will
the president's fiscal cliff plant to republican house speaker john bain and not buying it. he just said white house needs to get serious and the markets are turning lower. also had fiscal cliffs survival kit home additions that you contain right now to prepare. dennis: blamed superstorm sandy. retailers playing the blame game for week november same store sales. analysts already asking what it really the storm or the economy did pull those numbers down? cheryl: we are watching a power ball conference this hour with more details expected on the two winners of the $580 million record jackpot from missouri and arizona. of gone home to buy my ticket. dennis: stocks every 15 minutes, nicole petallides, for the stock exchange where stocks the suddenly lower on more cliffphobia. nicole: i can say in the wall street traders saying every headline out of washington moving this market, fiscal cliff phobia is a good way to say it, whatever you want to call it we have seen so many dramatic moves in the market, a particular companies making moves in preparation or all been wary about the fiscal cliff, let's
-style event to sort of drum up support for what the white house wants to do on fiscal cliff. you know, the president after he won re-election essentially said i know lots of you didn't vote for me. i've listened to you. i take your concerns to heart and we're going to move forward. does that apply to congressional republicans, kristen? does he hear what john boehner has to say? does he internalize it? do we hear something acknowledging republican resistance to what he laid out today in pennsylvania or not? >> reporter: well, i think he certainly is hearing and listening to john boehner, but he also believes that he has the upper hand having just won re-election and this trip to pennsylvania today is sort of a larger pr campaign that the president and the white house have been embarking on to get voters, to pressure congressional republicans to get onboard with the president's plan of increasing taxes on wealthier americans. he's traveling to pennsylvania today. he has had had business leaders here at the white house, also leaders of the progressive movement to sort of build support fo
over the fiscal cliff, instead congress and the white house, this one happening on twitter. melissa: dennis kneale is covering the story with the latest. i love this one. >> the obama administration renowned for the use of social networks but this time maybe it outdid itself. the president urging americans to tweet their support for using the hash tag mo farah, as in my $2000, raised taxes on somebody else. now my2k has become a way to trash obama and cheering at the democrats. they been acquired sponsorship rights for my2k, they often see paid messages opposing the obama tax hikes. they run the gamut. some talk about the sudden switch to now playing up keeping tax cuts for everyone else. others make fun of my2k origins. a few samples. obama irony, same people who claimed bush tax cuts are only for the rich now argue to keep them because they help the poor. and there is this one. my2k should really be somebody else's two k. they can government not to take their money and say take it from someone else. and then there is this one, y2k was caught by programmers failing to limit code 24
to go before the united states faces the fiscal cliff, the white house has rejected a proposal from house republicans to prevent tax hikes and spending cuts at the end of the year. no formal talks between the two sides are scheduled today. will go outside the nation's capital to get your voice involved. republicans -- democrats -- independents -- send us a tweet, post your comments on facebook, or send us an e-mail. we begin with some of the papers across the country today and how this latest proposal from house republicans is playing out in the papers. courtesy of "the atlantic journal-constitution" -- here is "the denver post" -- finally, here is "of the arizona republic" -- here is "the washington post" on what is inside this deal -- we want to get your take on this. what do you think? ted in new york, a democratic caller. what do you think? caller: good morning. i do not think it goes far enough. i think it was greenspan that i heard last week said in a discussion panel that a recession as a result of going over the fiscal slope would be a small price to pay to pay back all the
. >> and the speaker tweeted, "how serious is the white house about avoiding the fiscal cliff?" reports suggest, in some cases, not so serious. and also, joanne, what is the strategy here, and is there a risk like looking like you're not really negotiating? >> well, you know, i think what's interesting is that there's the posture that everyone is taking in public, but then what you're hearing behind the scenes is that everyone's sort of understands what the contours of the deal are going to look like. and what i see is john boehner trying to sort of protect his caucus at this point because he probably understands that at the end of the day, that top rate is going to go up. and republicans are in a really awkward position because right now essentially they're just defending the tax cut for the top 2%. at the same time, the white house's public posture is to say well, no, we don't want to go over the fiscal cliff because you don't want to send that message to the markets. but then behind the scenes you sort of get the feeling they'd be willing to do it and they'd be okay at least temporarily havi
a year end deadline, the white house is wasting no time rejecting the republicans' fiscal cliff counter offer on tax reforms and spending cuts. the gop plan consists of $2.2 trillion in saving officials a decade including raging the age for medicare from 65 to 67 and lowering the cost of living increases for social security benefits. they also propose overhauling the tax code to generate $800 billion in new revenue but without raising taxes on the wealthy. frn in a letter to the president, republicans attempted to sell the offer as the erskine bowles plan, comparing it to the same offer he drew up last year. >> i think he'd disagree. >> the co-chair of obama's deficit commission, but yesterday mr. bowles flatly rejected that connection. meanwhile, the white house is turning to campaign style messaging as a reminder of whose tax plan was chosen in the court of public opinion on election day. >> under my plan, first of all, 98% of folks who make less than 250,000, you wouldn't see your income taxes go up a single dime. all right? because you're the ones who need relief. but we're not goin
laughing in the white house negotiator's face. so is there any hope of a compromise over the fiscal cliff. we're talking to the newly re-elected minority whip steny hoyer coming up next. ♪ well, it's that time of year again. you know, picture-taking season. and with photo stream, you can share all the photos you want, with just the people you want. it's as easy as pie. mmmm..pie. [ female announcer ] holiday cookies are a big job. everything has to be just right. perfection is in the details. ♪ get to holiday fun faster with pillsbury cookie dough. >>> 17 minutes past the hour here on a friday. well, the white house plan to avoid the fiscal cliff to congressional leaders, and republicans, laughed in their faces. literally in the case of mitch mcconnell. >> the plan calls for $1.6 trillion in new tax revenues, $400 billion in cuts to medicare and other entitlements, $50 billion for a new stimulus, and republicans really didn't like this one, congress would have to give up control over raising the debt limit. we want to bring in now the recently re-elected house minority whip maryland c
to actually go over the fiscal cliff. just one day after the treasury secretary said the white house is absolutely prepared to do just that under certain circumstances a leading economist is echoing those sentiments. >> i would not come up with a deal unless it's a really good deal before the end of the year. i would take it into next year if that means you're going to get a better deal. >> let's bring in our senior congressional correspondent dana bash. dana, democrats are saying this is either raise tax rates for the wealthy or they are prepared to go over the cliff. there must be a lot of fear up there about all of this. what are you hearing in the halls of congress? >> reporter: there's a lot of fear. there's no question on both sides of the aisle. even top republicans disagree with that. even republicans who don't want to give on that big issue dan talked about, tax rates for the wealthy. john kyle, number two republican in the senate i spoke with him and he said he thinks any deal would be better than going over the cliff. the reason is because there's so many problems, real li
's plan to avert the fiscal cliff. guess what, the white house rejected it, calling the gop proposal unbalanced and not serious. translation? no tax hikes on the wealthy so democrats said forget about it. we thought you should take a look. it totals $2.2 trillion in deficit reduction over ten years. the part that stood out to us was $600 billion in proposed savings in medicare reforms. how? in part by raising the age of eligibility to 65 to maybe 67. turning down the gop proposal, dan pfieffer said, quote, it provides no details on which deductions they would eliminate, which loopholes they will close or which medicare savings they would achieve." let's head now to the white house and dan lothian. the white house will not offer a counter proposal, right? what's going on here? >> reporter: well, you know, i think the white house is digging in. the president said early on in this process that he would only sit down and really move forward, negotiate on this in any meaningful way if the tax hikes for the wealthy expired. and republicans have been pushing back on that -- tax breaks rathe
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. >>> rejected. the gop snubs the white house's opening offer in fiscal cliff talks. >>> upgraded palestine celebrates a new status despite stiff american opposition. >>> rich and now famous. we know the identity of one of those lucky power ball jackpot winners. >> that's good news. >> can't wait to meet that person. >> good morning. welcome to "early start." i'm christine romans. it's friday. >> happy friday. john berman is hosting "starting point" at 7:00. the middle east is getting ugly. insult and finger pointing in the fiscal cliff debate. tax rates spike and spending slashed. congress is breaking for the holidays in two weeks. it could send the economy spinning in directions. $1.6 trillion in tax hikes. he will travel to pennsylvania to sell it to you. republicans aren't buying it. listen to house speaker, john boehner. >> despite the claims the president supports a balanced approach, the democrats have yet to get serious about real spending cuts. >> democrats are firing right back at boehner. harry reid getting a little personal. >> i don't understand his brain, so you should ask him
the fiscal cliff, many high income earns are taking steps to sell their houses, stocks and even businesses before the end of the year. you're going to name names? >> one of the advantages of being wealthy is that you could manage your income around taxes and the wealthy are doing a lot of income managing right now, with tax rates scheduled to go up next year for capital gains, dividends, salaries, they are racing to take their gains before january 1. many rich entrepreneurs, they have their own private companies, if they planned to sell those businesses anyway this year, they're struggling to do it now. george lucas sold his -- a broker in miami told me that the sale of a $38 million home is -- wealth advisers tell me the rich are also churning or selling stocks if they have a large gain, they're taking that now. we're seeing that selling pressure in the market, you guys have been talking about that a lot recently. some of the biggest money is coming from dividends, both private and public companies. taxes on dividends could more than triple next year, more than 100 companies have already
on the proposal that was offered by the white house on the fiscal cliff. this is jon. independent line. hello. caller: hello. first of all, happy holidays. not sure. happy holidays, anyway. second of all, you people are journalists. you people are true journalists. i watch every day of the week. and one more thing, that fool that called yesterday, must be a product of inbreeding the way -- i don't know how they let him in. host: before we go back to yesterday, what do you think of the proposal today? >> caller: well, you don't know what they do behind closed doors. what they put out to the public is one thing and from both parties. they both have a little spin here and there. politicians to me, ha, i could tell you a story that happened when i was a kid in the 1950's. i'm originally from new york and some woman asked a politics who was running, why should i vote for you? and he said outright, because time biggest crook in this neighborhood and that guy was always voted in all the time because he was honest. we don't know what goes on behind closed doors. people are getting all worked up about
, saying he is slightly pessimistic. he says there is 2/3 chance they will go off the fiscal cliff. that is not what the markets want to hear, jon. jon: not at all. ed henry at the white house. if jay carney relents and let you into the meeting give us a shot. we'll be on air. >> reporter: i will give you a copy of the menu. jon: please do, thanks. jenna: we'll forget about politicians just for a moment. i promise we'll return there surely over the next couple hours. let's talk about some renewed private sector pushing to really slash the federal budget. a group called citizens against government waste is calling for nearly $2 trillion in cuts the next five years. doug mckelway is live with the story. doug, how realistic is that goal? >> reporter: how realistic is the goal? not realistic at all. let's be honest about this. at least it is a benchmark we can strive for. citizens against government waste went through the federal budget, they identified $392 billion in cuts. $1.8 trillion in cuts over next five years. which totals 11% of the federal budget, none which touches the most
remarks from house speaker john boehner. and more about the fiscal cliff negotiations with house majority leader eric kantor. >> what was your reaction? >> you know, i think we have said that offer is not a serious offer. all of a sudden they're asking for $1.6 trillion in tax hikes and nowhere near that number in spending reforms. and what we've always said is we want to fix the problem. we want to make sure that we get a hand on these unfunded obligations connected with the into itment programs. we want to start the spending problem so we can then go about trying to manage down the debt and deaf sifment and we don't want to aggravate a struggling economy. we want to get people back to work, which is why again, we take the position that raising tax rates is absolutely not something that helps get people back to work. >> what was the importance of that, rather than just going ahead with visas that you agree are very, very important? >> well, again, what we believe is this was the first step forward in terms of trying to address the need for mot earnization in our visa laws. and we have a
leadership on the democratic side. we are talking about the so-called fiscal cliff. of course our cameras have been covering all of the events here in washington as both sides try to negotiate their argument with the public. if you go to our website, c-span.org, we have a special website setaside, webpage, c-span.org/fiscalcliff. or tweet us your thoughts using the #fiscal cliff. go ahead, payton. caller: thank you. i'm one of the original owners and i live in one of the poorest areas of the country which is one of the most highly republican areas of the country. i always intended if the republicans -- host: we are losing you, there. caller: somebody else is speaking. what i want to tell you is this cost of living is shameful way to protect the rich. host: we'll leave it there, payton. guest: he's got -- i can't add much to that. you're right. the previous caller who had talked making $14,000, he and his wife, their total income was $14,000 year on sfments he's not throwing -- on social security. he's not throwing money around. you start limiting the cost of living, the increases to keep
after discouraging words from washington on the state of the fiscal cliff. this time it was house speaker boehner speaking with reporters after meeting with treasury secretary tim geithner. eamon javers is in washington with the latest. eamon, the sentiment down here is these guys should stop talking and start crafting a deal. >> reporter: that's the sentiment here in the hallways of capitol hill as well, sue. i can tell you that. we are starting to get a little more clarity on what's going on here today. i just had the chance just a few moments ago to button-hole senator harry reid here in the hallway, asking him a very specific question. i said did treasury secretary tim geithner come up here with a new specific offer for republicans? is that what he laid down on the table for speaker john boehner today? reid told me -- no, there was no specific offer here today from geithner to the republican side. he said that the president of the united states made the democrats' over two weeks ago and there's been no new specific offer since then. i think that explains a little bit of why we
to avoid the fiscal cliff. but republican house speaker john boehner dismisses it as, and i'm quoting, la la land. the republicans offered their proposal, that happened about 24 hours ago. the white house quickly labels it as nothing new. business as usual, right? so how do we move beyond this stalemate in washington? we heard from the president, just a short time ago. our chief white house correspondent jessica yellin joins me now, jessica, the president spoke out, sat down in an interview with bloomberg tv, and in listening to the interview, did you hear any clues toward a possible compromise here? >> reporter: not new clues, brooke. the president laid down the marker that we heard from the white house consistently, which is they aren't moving until they hear the republicans agree to raise tax rates on the wealthiest. listen to what the president had to say. >> i think that, you know, we have the potential of getting a deal done, but it is going to require what i talked about during the campaign, which is a balanced responsible approach to deficit reduction that can help give businesses
: in part with a hashtag. my 2k. the white house is saying if the u.s. goes off the fiscal cliff it will cost the average middle class family $2,200 a year and they want middle class social media users, twitter users who don't want that to happen to get online right now. >> today i'm asking congress to listen to the people who sent us here to serve. i'm asking americans all across the country to make your voice heard. tell members of congress what a $2,000 tax hike would mean to you. call your members of congress. right them an email. post it on their nice book walls. you can tweet it using the hashtag, my 2k. >> reporter: as you heard at the top of the show treasury secretary timothy geithner is going to be on the hill today. one of his meetings will be with senate majority leader mitch mcconnell who just said, we are eager to hear the administration's specific plans for protecting jobs and growth by reducing the national debt, reducing washington spending and preventing a tax hike on every american taxpayer. so, bill, the two sides are talking to each other but it does sound li
at the white house, president obama talking about the fiscal cliff. john? >> i wanted to play a soundbite from the bloomberg interview that i mentioned to sue a few minutes ago. one yes offered a carrot to say if you do that in the short term, put revenue on the table concretely in that way, we will have a long process of tax entitlement reform that could end up reducing the rate in 2013. here is the president. >> not able to come up with a comprehensive tax reform package that gets it all done just in the next two weeks. we are not going to be able to come one necessarily comprehensive entitlement reform package that gets it all done in the next two weeks. when you luke at what ronald reagan did back in 1986, working with bill bradley and others, that was a year and a half process. what i have suggested is let's essentially put a down payment on taxes, let's let tax rates on the upper income folks go up. >> now, the difficulty of tax reform has been a concern of the white house throughout this discussion, all the way back to 2011. it's why they insisted on the top rates going up. at that time
-span an update an the fiscal cliff. first we hear from speaker boehner. later senate democrats explain what they are looking for in negotiations with republicans. house speaker john boehner told reporters there has been no progress in two weeks of discussions on the fiscal cliff. his comments came on the same day guide ner made rounds on capitol hill. this is ten minutes. >> good morning, everyone. the president has warned us about the dangers of going over the fiscal cliff. but his actions have not matched his public statements. members of his own party seem quite comfortable with sending the economy over the fiscal cliff. on tuesday, we had productive conversation at the white house. despite the claims that the president supports a balanced approach, the democrats have yet to get serious about real spending cuts. secondly, no substantive progress has been made in the talks between the white house and the house over the last two weeks. this is not a game. jobs are on the line. the american economy is on the line. this is a moment for adult leadership. campaign-style rallies are not the way
. 2012] >> coming up tonight on c-span, an update on negotiations of the so-called fiscal cliff. first we hear from house speaker john boehner after meeting with treasury secretary tim geithner. that is followed by house democratic leaders after their meeting. then, senate democrats explain what they're looking for in negotiations with republicans. friday on "washington journal," a congressional this story and gives a history of the filibuster rule in the senate and explains the changes senate leader harry reid is pursuing. then austin tell us less starting at 7:00 eastern on c-span. -- washington journal is live at 7:00 eastern on c-span. >> we had 2000 flag officers and generals. today we had one dozen flak officers and generals. the ratio is out of whack. it is not a captain, and a battle of. we look at where we can not only save the money, but we can transfer responsibilities at of the pentagon and consolidate programs and serious significant amount of money. >> this weekend you can talk about tom coburn above the fiscal cliff and the republican party in "in the." on c-span 2. >> his
? this constant focus on the fiscal cliff, obviously, it's been dictating sentiment. it's been dictating markets. are there other areas that investors should be looking at? >> well, i had a guest this morning, dr. saunders, who's testified on issues regarding housing, fha, in front of congress. he knows what he's talking about. he brought up what many of us are looking at. a lot of -- you know, real estate, residential construction was one of the positives in today's gdp report. we've seen a lot of positives in housing. but there's been a lot of legal ranging over a big group of foreclosures that looks like it's cleaned itself up. 2013 could see a lot of these dumped in the marketplace. i think housing is an area that we've seen progress, but it still might have a sluggish 2013. i really agree with our guest on high-yield munis. remember, there has been talk that one of the reforms, one of the loopholes they may close is some of the tax treatment of munis. i personally don't think it will happen, but it is an issue to be on top of. >> all right. let me ask you guys the same question, jordan and
, the fiscal cliff. geithner's president lead negotiator in the budget talks. he'll meet first with harry reid at 10:00 a.m. and then with house republicans including speaker john boehner, eric cantor and paul ryan. geithner will lunch with mitch mcconnell and then house minority leader nancy pelosi. president obama is signaling he's flexible on on where tax rates should go for the wealthiest americans. a return to the clinton era tax rates would have households pay between 36% to 39%. the president met with a group of 14 ceos wednesday afternoon. they offered support for resolving the if i can crisis with a proposal for higher taxes for those who make more than a quarter million dollars a year. sdl bo >> both sides have acknowledged that there will be revenue concessions and sbilgtment cent concessio concessions. i'm not a master of the political art here, but i would say if you have these point of views in a business context as close as they are, i would say a deal would be in reach. >> ford chairman bill ford junior agrees with blankfein saying he's confident the obama administration can re
to that, is the administration prepared to go over the fiscal cliff. >> oh, absolutely. there's no prospect to an agreement that doesn't involve those rates going up on the top 2% of the wealthy -- remember, it's only 2%. >> so the white house is eliminating the republicans' house cards. house speaker john boehner was left pretending that the democrats had not offered them a deal. >> now we need a response from the white house. we can't sit here and negotiate with ourselves. >> house republican leader eric cantor also seemed to forget that the white house presented a specific plan in these negotiations. >> where are the specifics? where are the discussions? nothing is going on. meanwhile, the people of this country are the ones that suffer. so we ask the president, sit down with us, be serious about the specifics of spending so we can stop the wasteful spending in washington and finally address the problem. >> john boehner appears to have the same form of anesthesia mitt romney was suffering from on the campaign trail. he tells supporters, if our offer is not acceptable to the
. now, let's put this all into context here. fiscal cliff negotiations, don't you think they would proceed a lot faster and smoother if both sides were really dealing with reality? but, you see, the republicans, they simply are not. house speaker john boehner and senate minority leader mitch mcconnell have spent years catering to the base that believes, let's say, president obama's a socialist, and the united nations wants to take your disabled child right out of your home. they have votes to back it up, folks. this pitiful display of most senate republicans on the disability treaty showed once again just how far they are, and how far they are removed from reality. one democratic senator told me yesterday his office was actually getting calls from constituents with disabled children wanting to know if the u.n. would remove their children from their homes. it is manufacturing fear in the lives of americans. sometimes it's just a bald-faced lie about the facts. here's the democratic and republican opening bids on the fiscal cliff. but the revenue side of the republican proposal just
speaker banner expressed his feelings on the fiscal cliff. we are talking budgets and essential programs. how is the state of utah handling all of this wow it is day four. we welcome utah governor in a fox business exclusive. welcome, governor. we begin by asking all of our governors, what are you doing? what action are you taking in advance? >> well, we have done what is proper and prudent. we live within our means. we do not have unnecessary debt. we have a rainy day surplus funds. that helps insulate us against some of the ups and downs of the market place nationally. our unemployment rate has dropped to 5.2. we are creating jobs. we are growing wealth in the private sector. our personal income is going up also. we are doing things that they ought to be doing in washington, d.c. liz: in the next three weeks, as you have meetings with your staff, you tell me, we talked about, for example, they have to prepare two separate budgets. how are you expected to be affected if, for example, 30% of your budget comes from federal funding, what if that goes away? >> 80% of that does not impact us
over the fiscal cliff. and that shows all this back and forth isn't doing house gop any good. we're back after the break. alright, in 15 minutes we're going to do the young turks. i think the number one thing that viewers like about the young turks is that we're honest. they know that i'm not bs'ing them with some hidden agenda, actually supporting one party or the other. when the democrats are wrong, they know that i'm going to be the first one to call them out. they can question whether i'm right, but i think that the audience gets that this guy, to the best of his ability, is trying to look out for us. rich, chewy caramel rolled up in smooth milk chocolate. don't forget about that payroll meeting. rolo.get your smooth on. also in minis. [ male announcer ] red lobster's hitting the streets to tell real people about our new 15 under $15 menu. oh my goodness! oh my gosh this looks amazing! [ male announcer ] our new maine stays! 15 entrees under $15 seafood, chicken and more! oo! the tilapia with roasted vegetables! i'm actually looking at the wood g
with the president at the white house to talk about the fiscal cliff and other issues affecting their states before coming to the mikes to address their concerns. >> i think we all recognize that there's an impact on our states, certainly, by what happens here. >> we want to be a part of the solution to the problems facing our nation. >> we also are saying that states are willing to do our part. we understand it's going to be a shared sacrifice as you have to look at spending cuts. states are willing to do more with less. >> while the national dialog is focused on the fiscal cliff which has the potential to significantly affect state budgets many governors are also tackling the implementation of obama care. starting in 2014 medicaid will be expanded to all americans within 138% of the poverty line, which is individuals making $15,000 a year or less, give health care to as many as 21 million additional americans. eight governors including one of those at the white house today, oklahoma republican governor mary fallin are rejecting the offer, concerned their states may have to foot the bill down the
the republicans if we go over the fiscal cliff. and this gives frankly, this gives the white house and this gives the obama administration much more bargaining leverage. >> grover norquist, here's the problem, it seems to me. again, as long as the posturing goes on with fairly ridiculous offers on both sides and lots of political rhetoric along the lines of well, they're not giving an inch, we're going backwards, you can't really go backwards from a position of complete standstill, as far as i'm concerned. as this goes on, the american economy stalls, wall street's nervous, the consumers that should be out there now buying lots of christmas presents and boosting the economy will be reticent because they'll be thinking hang on, what's going to happen come the end of the year, am i suddenly going to have to find more money. everything starts to once again get paralyzed and somebody's got to give here. now, are the republicans prepared to go over this cliff on the pure point of refusing to allow increased income tax on the richest 2% of the country? and if so, why? it's such a small thing to fall ov
for the wealthy and quote, sticks the middle class with the bill. so with 29 days to go until the fiscal cliff, what would it take to get a deal? joining me now, men on opposite sides, grover norquist, president of americans for tax reform and robert reish, former secretary of labor for president bill clinton and the author of "beyond outrage." none of the three of us are beyond outrage, grover norquist, which is why i keep having you back. the situation it seems to me as an impartial observer here is that both sides have now made fairly ludicrous offers that they know the other side is never going to accept in a million years. that does beg the question, grover, why bother, given that both sides know where they need to move, why the games? >> well, it's not clear that both sides know. the week after the election, president obama was asked do you have to have the higher rates or could we have deductions and credits and he said he was open to negotiations. three weeks later, after thanksgiving, he shows up and all of a sudden there's a line in the sand on rates that had come out of nowhere, so
boehner and house republican leaders talk about fiscal cliff negotiations. he says he is optimistic a deal can be reached with the president. >> morning, everyone. going over the fiscal cliff will hurt our economy and will her job creation in our country. republicans are committed to continuing to work with the president to come to an agreement to avert the so-called fiscal clef. one reason why we believe that we put revenue on the table as long as it is accompanied by serious spending cuts to avert a crisis. we believe this is the president's request for a balanced approach to this issue, and we are going to continue to work with the president to try to resolve this in a way that is fair for the american people. we all now that we have had the spending crisis coming at us like a freight train. it has to be dealt with. in order to try to come to an agreement, republicans are willing to put revenue on the table. it is time for the president and democrats to get serious about the spending problem our country has. i am optimistic. we can continue to work together to avert this crisis, sooner
spark when it came to negotiating a deal to avoid the fiscal cliff, which is the christmas present the country needs. today we heard president obama's response to the proposal that house speaker john boehner put on the table yesterday. >> the speaker's proposal right now is still out of balance. >> of out of balance. kind of similar to what republicans said last week when the president sent over his terms. so now what? will they sit down and talk it through? well, not according to at least one senior republican aide who told cnn today, no conversations today, no e-mails, tweets, carrier pigeons. as for boehner and obama, they actually did see each other in person at the white house holiday party last night in black tie. while other lawmakers waited in line to get the photo with the president, multiple sources from both sides of the aisle tell cnn that boehner wasn't among them. so much for holiday cheer. we have this picture. we're wait fworg the day there's a fiscal cliff. there wasn't total silence in washington today. senate majority leader harry reid spoke up. but in his case,
the fiscal cliff. >>> also at the top of the hour, former white house council economic provider greg mankiw. from currency trading for a few to a currency market for everyone. the potential of fxcm unlocked. nyse euronext. unlocking the world's potential. the potential of yelp unlocked. nyse euronext. unlocking the world's potential. >>> welcome back, everybody. secretary treasurer time dpiet nev geithner is going to be speaking today. majority leader eric cantor, house bunt committee chairman paul ryan and the chairman of the house is tax's ways and mean committee, also lunch with republican senate minority leader mitch mcconnell and nancy pelosi. he has a pretty full schedule today. >>> yesterday a number of high-profile corporate leaders met with president obama at the white house including goldman sachs' ceo lloyd blankfein. >> at this point both sides had acknowledged there was going to be revenue concessions and entitlement concessions. in fact, if you listen to it, again, i'm not a master of the political art here and i'm not no washington, but i would say if you had these point of v
>>> i'm thomas robertson for tamron hall on assignment. the political theater over the fiscal cliff. treasury secretary tim geithner is on capitol hill right now set to meet with nancy pelosi in less than an hour. earlier today geithner met behind closed doors with house speaker john boehner, senate majority leader harry reid and frank mcconnell. the word he used to describe the overall negotiations, disappointing. >> no substantive progress has been made in the talks between the white house and the house over the last two weeks. listen, this is not a game. jobs are on the line. the american economy is on the line. and this is a moment for adult leadership. campaign style rallies and one-sided leaks in the press are not the way to get things done here in washington. >> democrats today said they're confident a deal can be reached by christmas. but admit negotiations would need to pick up steam. as for senator reid, he says it's now up to the gop to make the next move. >> we're still waiting for a serious offer from the republicans. the president has made his proposal. we need a propo
three weeks of dealing with the benghazi scandal and the fiscal cliff, obama is prepared to offer romney a position in the administration, president of the united states. [ laughter ] >> you've been warned, harry reid! take away mitch mcconnell's filibuster and he will strike back! by obstructing everything you do! or let him keep the filibuster so he can obstruct everything you do! [ gunfire ] >> still to come, an easy recipe perfect for entertaining. >> also the reason why the latest royal visit was extra special. for the douche -- duke and duchess of cambridge. >> are you crying? >> because the cooker -- because the workers won't make my muffins anymore. >> what religion is involved with christmas? what religion? >> christianity. >> that's not a religion. that's a philosophy. >> okay. don't tell me what i think. when i said i didn't have a problem, i don't have a problem. got it? >> give the people their billions. let's move on. >> i feel sorry for those people who won because now they're p
on the fiscal cliff. what is going on, rich edson? "imus in the morning" rich: house republicans will host the events with small business leaders in their districts and highlight what republicans say will be the economic damage small-business from raising income-tax rates on families earning $250,000 a year. president obama is leaving washington too though he is only heading across the potomac river, going to suburban virginia to speak to a middle-class family and he will press congress to protect those making less than $250,000 a year from tax increases by raising rates on those making more. in washington it is the same fight. >> president obama, democrats in congress have ever been ambiguous, provide economic security for 90% of american families and 97% of small businesses asking the wealthiest 2% to contribute just a little more to stop this runaway debt. >> what the president is really interested in as we learned just yesterday he is getting as much taxpayer money as he can first by raising taxes on small business that he believes are making too much money and then on everybody else.
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